Summary
In this episode of Contemplating Resonance, Matt Stine sits down with Ariele Lanning, also known as Divine Rebel Rising, to explore the deep work of deconstructing religious trauma and reclaiming personal autonomy. Ariele shares her journey from growing up in a Mormon household to experiencing profound shifts in her spiritual path. Her work as a deconstruction coach and evidential spiritualist centers on helping others heal subconscious belief systems, reconnect with intuition, and integrate somatic awareness into their daily lives.
The conversation dives into the intersection of trauma, religious conditioning, and self-worth. Ariele discusses how the subconscious mind absorbs rigid belief systems, shaping not only identity but also physical and emotional well-being. She shares how practices like yoga, nervous system regulation, and remote viewing helped her shift away from fear-based teachings and into an empowered, spiritually expansive perspective. Together, Matt and Ariele unpack the similarities between high-control religious environments and narcissistic abuse, highlighting the psychological patterns that keep people stuck.
Listeners will come away with insights into the tangible steps of healing—learning to feel into the body, tracking emotional triggers, and retraining the nervous system for safety. Ariele emphasizes that deconstruction doesn’t have to lead to spiritual emptiness; rather, it can be an opening to something more expansive, rooted in intuition and personal truth. Whether you’re navigating religious trauma, seeking to reconnect with your body, or exploring new spiritual frameworks, this episode provides a roadmap for transformation.
Takeaways
• Religious trauma often disconnects people from their intuition and body, making healing a process of reestablishing trust within oneself.
• The subconscious mind absorbs fear-based teachings that can shape identity, self-worth, and nervous system responses long after leaving high-control religions.
• Deconstruction doesn’t have to lead to atheism; it can be a gateway to a more expansive and intuitive spirituality.
• Remote viewing and other intuitive practices can help dismantle fear around the unknown and open up new ways of connecting with energy and information.
• Healing from religious trauma requires both cognitive and somatic work—releasing subconscious patterns while retraining the body to feel safe in new experiences.
Quoteables
Religious trauma doesn’t just live in the mind—it’s stored in the body, shaping how we feel safe or unsafe in the world. – Ariele Lanning
Leaving high-control religion isn’t just about rejecting a belief system; it’s about reclaiming the ability to trust yourself. – Matt Stine
The nervous system doesn’t lie—if you’re constantly in survival mode, there’s a deeper layer of healing that needs to happen. – Ariele Lanning
Deconstruction isn’t the end of spirituality—it’s the beginning of discovering what truly resonates with your soul. – Ariele Lanning
Healing isn’t about replacing one set of beliefs with another; it’s about learning to sit with the unknown and feel safe in it. – Matt Stine
Notes
Chapters
• 00:00 - Introduction
Matt introduces Ariele Lanning and sets the stage for a deep dive into religious trauma, deconstruction, and healing.
• 02:15 - Ariele’s Journey from Mormonism to Spiritual Freedom
Ariele shares her personal story of growing up in a Mormon household and the pivotal moments that led to her spiritual awakening.
• 08:42 - Understanding Religious Trauma and the Nervous System
Discussion on how fear-based teachings impact the subconscious mind, nervous system, and overall sense of safety.
• 15:30 - Deconstruction vs. Spiritual Expansion
Ariele challenges the idea that leaving religion must lead to atheism, exploring how intuitive spirituality can emerge from deconstruction.
• 22:05 - Intuition, Remote Viewing, and Energetic Awareness
A look into Ariele’s work with remote viewing, psychic development, and how intuitive practices help people reconnect with their inner wisdom.
• 30:50 - High-Control Religion and Narcissistic Abuse Patterns
Exploring the parallels between religious indoctrination and narcissistic manipulation, and how to break free from these cycles.
• 38:15 - Healing Through Somatic Practices
Ariele explains how yoga, meditation, and nervous system regulation support deep healing from subconscious religious conditioning.
• 45:20 - The Power of Personal Truth and Self-Trust
A conversation on embracing uncertainty, stepping into self-trust, and cultivating a spiritual practice that resonates on an individual level.
• 51:10 - Conclusion and Final Reflections
Matt and Ariele wrap up with reflections on healing, self-integration, and finding freedom beyond religious trauma.
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